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COMMENTARY

FEBRUARY 27, 2013

Pletcher and the Derby: Better than most think

by Ed DeRosa

The only thing more fashionable than Todd Pletcher's charcoal gray suits on

race day is

bashing the five-time Eclipse Award-winning trainer's

Kentucky Derby

record.

Admittedly, 1-for-31 isn't the most impressive stat, but it's also an unfair

way to couch the opportunities he's had to win America's most famous race

because he's only tried 12 times (but with 31 horses).

Ignoring the improbable chance of a dead heat, the best Pletcher's record

could be is 12-for-31 (38.7 percent), and the chances of that based on off odds of his

horses (and accounting for takeout) is 8,659,613,123,123-to-1.

But of course that's ridiculous. No one expects Pletcher to win the race

every year, but even multiple wins is a tall order when you consider that no

trainer in that period has won the Derby more than once, so in a stat for most

Derby wins in the 21st century (whether you count 2000 or not), Pletcher is tied

with 11 (or 12) others with one win each.

And when talking about Pletcher's Derby record the binary nature of what he

can accomplish each year is often overlooked in stats such as "He's a 25

percent

trainer overall but has only won the Derby with one starter from 30." He can

either win or lose.

Pletcher is 1-for-31 (3.2 percent) in an era when all starters are 13-for-246

(5.3 percent). Sure, a trainer of his stature could be expected to perform a little

better than all starters, but even winning the race a second time gets him to

just 6.45 percent, and we're about to see winning it twice is no easy task let alone

the charming third time that would make him a nearly 10 percent trainer in one of the

most difficult races in the world to win.

Pletcher saddled his first Kentucky Derby starter (actually first four Derby

starters) in 2000. They had coupled entries for common ownership back then, so

Impeachment and Trippi were half of a four-horse entry that also included High

Yield and Commendable at 6.2-to-1. With High Yield unquestionably the strongest

part of the entry, I estimated that Pletcher's half of the entry had about a

29-to-2 chance of winning. More Than Ready was 11.3-to-1 and Graeme Hall was

46.3-to-1. So the total chance that Pletcher would win in 2000 was 14.6 or about

5.85-to-1.

I conducted this same exercise for the other 12 Derbys since Pletcher began

participating. He did not saddle a horse in 2003, so the probability of a win

there is 0. His "best chance" came in 2007 when his five entrants (Any Given

Saturday, Circular Quay, Cowtown Cat, Sam P., and Scat Daddy) were given a

5-to-2 chance in the win pool by the wagering public. He didn't get it done that

year but did three years later when Super Saver scored at 8-to-1 on the tote but

was part of a quartet the wagering public made 6-to-1 to get Todd his first

Derby.

Given the chances Pletcher had of winning each Kentucky Derby, the most

likely outcome is that he would have won the race...

Once.

That's right. For all the wailing and gnashing of teeth about how one of our

best trainers "can't win the big one," the most likely result (37.4

percent) from

running these 13 Kentucky Derbys is that he would have won the race one time,

and it's only slightly more likely that he would have won it twice (25.7 percent)

versus not at all (23.7 percent), and things get really difficult when you talk about

three

(8-to-1), four (38-to-1), or five or more wins (202-to-1).

Which is not to say such incredible runs can't happen. In the past 25 years

streaks include Baffert's three wins in six years, Lukas's four wins in 12

years, and Zito's two wins in four years, and each of those runs dwarf what

Pletcher has accomplished.

But no one is arguing for Pletcher being among the Derby greats. He's often

painted as a goat, and while I'm sure many of his owners would prefer he had a

little more success in the race, he's winning at about the rate you would

expect.

Pletcher Derby:

Year

 

Starter

 

Odds

 

% pool

 

Prob

 

Race prob

2000

 

More Than Ready

 

11.3

 

8.13%

 

6.83%

  
  

Impeachment/Trippi

 

13

 

7.14%

 

6.00%

  
  

Graeme Hall

 

46.36

 

2.11%

 

1.77%

 

14.60%

2001

 

Invisible Ink

 

55

 

1.79%

 

1.50%

  
  

Balto Star

 

8.3

 

10.75%

 

9.03%

 

10.53%

2002

 

Wild Horses

 

58.5

 

1.68%

 

1.41%

 

1.19%

2003

 

none

 

n/a

 

n/a

n/a

 

n/a

2004

 

Limehouse

 

41.7

 

2.34%

 

1.97%

  
  

Pollard's Vision

 

24

 

4.00%

 

3.36%

 

5.33%

2005

 

Flower Alley

 

41.3

 

2.36%

 

1.99%

  
  

Coin Silver

 

38.6

 

2.53%

 

2.12%

  
  

Bandini

 

6.8

 

12.82%

 

10.77%

 

14.88%

2006

 

Bluegrass Cat

 

30

 

3.23%

 

2.71%

  
  

Keyed Entry

 

28.8

 

3.36%

 

2.82%

 

5.53%

2007

 

Circular Quay

 

11.4

 

8.06%

 

6.77%

  
  

Any Given Saturday

 

13.6

 

6.85%

 

5.75%

  
  

Sam P.

 

43.7

 

2.24%

 

1.88%

  
  

Scat Daddy

 

7.2

 

12.20%

 

10.24%

  
  

Cowtown Cat

 

19.8

 

4.81%

 

4.04%

 

28.69%

2008

 

Cowboy Cal

 

39.2

 

2.49%

 

2.09%

  
  

Monba

 

31.6

 

3.07%

 

2.58%

 

4.67%

2009

 

Join In the Dance

 

51.4

 

1.91%

 

1.60%

  
  

Dunkirk

 

5.2

 

16.13%

 

13.55%

  
  

Advice

 

49

 

2.00%

 

1.68%

 

16.83%

2010

 

Super Saver

 

8

 

11.11%

 

9.33%

  
  

Mission Impazible

 

16.7

 

5.65%

 

4.75%

  
  

Devil May Care

 

10.9

 

8.40%

 

7.06%

  
  

Discreetly Mine

 

31.6

 

3.07%

 

2.58%

 

14.38%

2011

 

Stay Thirsty

 

17.2

 

5.49%

 

4.62%

 

3.88%

2012

 

El Padrino

 

29.4

 

3.29%

 

2.76%

  
  

Gemologist

 

8.6

 

10.42%

 

8.75%

 

11.51%

           

Wins

 

Prob

 

 

 

Odds

0

 

23.67%

 

3.23

 

16-to-5

1

 

37.45%

 

1.67

 

5-to-3

2

 

25.69%

 

2.89

 

29-to-10

3

 

10.14%

 

8.87

 

8-to-1

4

 

2.56%

 

38.05

 

38-to-1

5

 

0.44%

 

228.40

  

6

 

0.05%

 

1,955.30

  

7

 

0.00%

 

24,130.29

  

8

 

0.00%

 

436,052.23

  

9

 

0.00%

 

11,918,931.66

  

10

 

0.00%

 

524,885,062.29

  

11

 

0.00%

 

42,333,417,999.17

  

12

 

0.00%

 

8,695,652,173,912.04

 

202-to-1

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